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More TMT Talk

Richard Ha left another interesting comment in regards to a previous post.

He states:

First of all, I am very much in favor of the TMT.  1) But, first and foremost we need to make sure that the process is followed, so that trust can be established again. We all know that the world has changed. 2) We cannot depend on ships to take care of us. We need to utilize our resources and opportunites in a smart way–for the benefit of future generations. It is Hawaiian tradition to plan ahead for the long term—generations from now. 3) The thing we can do for future generations is to do all we can to make sure our keiki are educated. We need to give them the tools for them to cope with the world they find. It is not about us. It is about future generations. We need to come together and find solutions. 4) What will future generations think of us many years from now? Now is the time to step up and find solutions!!

My simple reply left to him in the comment box was this:

It is Hawaiian Tradition to plan ahead for the long term, as you said…
The thing is… is that the Hawaiians were using Mauna Kea and planning to use it long before ANY TELESCOPES came into place. They cried tears of bloody murder wondering why something they had held onto for so long and looked forward to using in the future. Now, it’s still being taken from them.

I’d like to expand a bit more on this.

1. “But, first and foremost we need to make sure that the process is followed, so that trust can be established again.”

I don’t trust the government much… hard to trust the State, less yet the FEDS.  I’ve already been told that this State Advisory Board that I’m working on is just a bunch of Pawns to the State.

2. “We cannot depend on ships to take care of us.”

Well the Thirty Meter Telescope will definitely be depending on ships to build it and maintain it

3. The thing we can do for future generations is to do all we can to make sure our keiki are educated. We need to give them the tools for them to cope with the world they find.

This is so true, but I don’t always believe schools are the best form of education.

4. What will future generations think of us many years from now? Now is the time to step up and find solutions!!

I don’t think the State has really looked at the future generations, and I don’t know if bringing in some multi-national company will solve this problem at all.

As you stated:

If the benefits do not extend to future generations then it does not need to be located on Mauna Kea

3 Responses

  1. Aloha Damon:

    I would like to clarify and expand on why I am very much in favor of the TMT.

    The “process” in the final analysis will either be accepted by all parties as satisfactory or will be tested in a court of law. Either way, it will be out of the hands of special interests.

    When I say that– “we cannot depend on ships to take care of us”. I am using a figure of speech. Some feel shipping will be interrupeted in a few years, others think it may be 15 years or more. I don’t know anyone who believes that this will not happen. It is just prudent to be safe rather than sorry.

    I flunked out of UH Manoa many years ago and learned important life lessons away from the class room —in the jungle of Viet Nam. Like, “leaving someone behind is not an option”. So, I believe that the benefits for education should be administered by a group of wise and competent people who can appreciate all manner of learning. We are working on this right now. And, if the benefit from the TMT and other astronomy entities will go into a fund for the education of our keiki, then it will benefit future generations and so the TMT should be encouraged to locate here.

    The TMT is funded to $250,000,000 by the Moore Foundation. Gordon Moore is a co founder of the Intel Corporation. So, the TMT located on Mauna Kea is like a multi national computer company operating in the world economy giving jobs to Hawaii’s people and educational benefits to Hawaii’s keiki–with some major differences. It is not a business. The money comes from extra profits of the worldwide computer industry. Because funding comes from excess profits, there will be no economic down turn risk.

    Contrast this to Aloha Airline shutting down, the sharp downturn in tourism, the bail out of our financial institutions. And, the prospects of rising oil and commodity costs all threatening Big Island businesses. Having a safe source of jobs and benefits is a prospect very few communities in the nation has available to them to help the transition into a new tomorrow.

    We all know that Hawaiians were ahead of their time in innovations and especially in all things celestial. Why not again?

    The mountain is a sacred place. We humans should elevate our behavior so that we can be worthy of operating in that environment. We can do this.

    We need to utilize all the resources and opportunities available to us. If not poho. (wasted)

    Most of the workers will be residents of Hawaii. There will be much less impact on our roads and infrastructure than that of tourism.

    And, finally, we need to take action to help shape the future of generations to come. I am comfortable that future generations will look back upon my actions as doing what I could do. I am comfortable with that.

    I invite people on all sides to come together and cooperate so we can achieve a result beneficial to future generations that we all can live with!!

    Thanks Damon for bringing up the issues.

    Aloha

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